Old-Geezer Knicks Were Grunwald’s Fault, Huh?

ICYMI, Grantland’s Zach Lowe casually dropped an interesting nugget regarding the surprising dispatch of the second-best GM the Knicks have ever had with a last name beginning with “Grun”:

The Knicks hired Mills in part because he believes they should keep the cap picture clear for the summer of 2015, invest in player development, and move away from Grunwald’s tendency to sign aging players, he says. “We believe there needs to be a heavier focus on making the players we have better, making sure they improve, and making decisions about whether we want to invest in older players — or if there are opportunities to find younger ones we can turn into impact players.”

Naturally, a detailed analysis of Mr. Grunwald’s rank in the pantheon of Knick GMs needs to be undertaken in the near future — I am already working on one, and I will likely conclude that his tenure was a mixed bag, which, for the Knicks, is nothing short of amazing. But stacking the deck with aging veterans isn’t something that I can ding him for. This is not to say that I was an ardent supporter of the ”geezer strategy,” but to assign blame soley to Grunwald would be foolhardy. In fact, if it’s true that Grunwald was consigned to advisory-purgatory for signing the likes of Jason Kidd, Kenyon Martin, Dirty Kurt, and the rest, his treatment would mark just the latest example of the Knicks’ capstone’s painful self-unawareness.

It all goes back to – wait for it – the Carmelo Anthony trade. Having parted with oodles of players and draft picks in that deal, Grunwald’s roster choices were reduced to the league’s table scraps. And he actually cooked up more than a few choice morsels, including Jeremy Lin, Steve Novak, Chris Copeland, and Pablo Prigioni. But a GM can only get so far by gambling on the low-risk-maybe-types when you must satiate the likes of ‘Melo, James Dolan and that certain rabid fanbase by winning RIGHT NOW. In that respect, Grunwald’s decision to supplement the Knicks with the Depends-crowd was absolutely justified.

Had the Knicks never parted with Wilson Chandler AND Danilo Gallinari AND Timofey Mozgov AND Corey Brewer AND Anthony Randolph AND Raymond Felton (who evetually came back at the expense of even more draft picks AND something called Jared Jeffries) AND a 2014 first round draft pick AND two other draft picks, Grunwald might not have been compelled to fill out his roster with any old NBA player (literally) who was willing to sign on the dotted line.

And the worst part is that New York didn’t have to jettison all those assets. If you believe, and I do, that ’Melo would only play for the Knicks, then he certainly would’ve washed up on the shores of the Hudson River as a free agent, anyway. Ironically, one can make the argument that ‘Melo’s faint praise-damnation of Lin (“[H]e’s a good young player that has a lot of potential and upside with time and experience.”) forced Grunwald to rush into a 39-year-old Jason Kidd’s welcoming embrace.

There are plenty of reasons to nitpick Grunwald, but if we’re meting out blame for the Knicks’ decision to go all geriatric last season, maybe those Dolanesque pink slips should have been delivered to some other MSG desks, too.

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Dead(First comment)

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Yo these espn insiders always talking shit bout knicks nigga said under .500

  • Elnino_201

    yo

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      yeah

  • Elnino_201

    knicks 37-45?? lmaoo

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    Rodrigue Beaubois a free agent?!

  • KnicksTape

    yoooo

  • Boberto

    yo where we livin at?

  • KnicksTape

    On that article this guy, zach lowe actually said “But could they open dialogue with, say, the Lakers, about an Anthony–Pau Gasol swap?”

    lmao what is this bum smoking?

  • Boberto

    MELO FOR PG!

    • KnicksTape

      dude you do know how bad melo at pg is right? wake up from 2k14 ma man

      • Boberto

        nigga do u know how bad Pablo/Beno is? wake up from dickriding

        • KnicksTape

          dickriding who? I’m not into them like you’re with your love for bill walker. I said beno sucks and pablo is ok.

      • Boberto

        and Melo is never bad at PG. he always. they did sum completion % shit of his pick and rolls and hes amd effective

        • KnicksTape

          nah he’s not the point forward lebron is. I remember him turning the ball over since I actually watched games and not his 2k playing style.

          • Boberto

            melos turnovers were mad low this year what u talkin bout hoe

          • KnicksTape

            I’m talking about him playing the PG n bringing the ball over not other times. When he did he had turnover and trouble handling.

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP

  • Elnino_201

    yo wtf lol

  • KnicksTape

    can’t believe this dude actually said knicks should consider swapping pau gasoft for anthony.

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP Ferg!!!!

  • Elnino_201

    asap ferg lmao

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP FERG!!!!!!

  • Elnino_201

    SHABBA!

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP Taking everything lmao

  • KnicksTape

    37-45 it is damn man I’m gonna cry

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      i feel you

  • Boberto

    Top NBA2k14 PG’s

    1.Melo
    2.Tim Hardaway Jr
    3. Andrea Bumnani

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    i felt like calling ESPN and be like WHY THE FUCK YA”LL GOT THE KNICKS AT 37-45 BITCH!!!!!!!

    • KnicksTape

      don’t let it get you I’ve learned to ignore em not surprised

    • Elnino_201

      We use the schoener thi……. I DONT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YA USE FIX IT! lmao

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        lmao

  • KnicksTape

    schoener system aka retarded system

  • Elnino_201

    the ratchet awards. lmao

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    JR shouldn’t deserve to start unless he can go one month wit out getting high lol

  • Elnino_201

    i deadass cnt believe drake kicked em off the tour cus of tht lmao

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP MOB!!!!

  • KnicksTape

    wale and chief get their hairstyle from mop rags

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Again A$AP Mob!!!!

    • KnicksTape

      nigga you having an orgasm lmao

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        lmao

      • Back The Money Truck up….

        Them Neegaz is aight…..Nothing to go crazy bout.

        • KnicksTape

          tell that to the guy here

          • Back The Money Truck up….

            Lol

  • Knickels n Dimes

    wait who said we should trade melo for Gasol?

    • KnicksTape

      some bum name zach lowe look at the article above

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A$AP Ant

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Rocky!!!!!

  • Elnino_201

    nigga this cypher wasnt all tht lol

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      idc they don’t get that much publicity

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Trash…..DJ Premiere couldn’t wait to get that over with!Lol

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        im sure if they really went in it would of been dope

        • Back The Money Truck up….

          Look like they were pretty into it….I mean,I dnt follow them so I’ll take yur eird for it.

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Yankees considering signing Beltran

    • KnicksTape

      lmao 7 years later

  • KnicksTape

    they said mcann looking for 100 mill lol

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      hell nah that nigga not worth it

  • Knickels n Dimes

    does kelly rowland count as a darkskin?

    • Elnino_201

      i would say so

    • KnicksTape

      she just made it there

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      then whats white skin

      • KnicksTape

        albino is number 10 on the scale. whitest

  • KnicksTape

    I still would take beltran tho

    • Elnino_201

      no doubt he still very serviceable

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      yeah

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    DJ Khalid think he Black?? Lol

    • KnicksTape

      he hangs with blacks all day can’t blame him tho lol

      • Back The Money Truck up….

        Lol….True Dat

  • Knickels n Dimes

    sooooo…. assumin that y’all would smash kelly rowland…. y’all would fuck darkskins?

    • Elnino_201

      no just her lmao

      • KnicksTape

        lol check out this nigga asking shit like this

        • Back The Money Truck up….

          SMH

      • Knickels n Dimes

        na, there has to be other darksin bitches y’all would smash

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      not pinched black

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Neega wht’s the matter with you?? All puzzy is pink….

      • Knickels n Dimes

        tell that to these niggas…

  • KnicksTape

    knickels you only like black women?

    • Knickels n Dimes

      na, I’m just tired of niggas(darksin niggas especially), sayin how they would never smash a darkskin

      • KnicksTape

        white women are better that’s y and lightskin black women. caramel color

  • Elnino_201

    yo knickstape how our game was close all day den i end up beatin u by 9 wtf lmao

    • KnicksTape

      nigga cause andrew luck sucked and all they hit was field goals lmao

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    President Obama was like in yo dreams nigga lol

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Lets ride, We the best, YMCMB

    -DJ Khaled

  • Elnino_201

    them 2 50 yarders from vinateri sealed it lol

  • KnicksTape

    yo trent richardson didn’t give me anything.

    • Knickels n Dimes

      if u dont want him, u can give him to me…

  • Elnino_201

    lmao niggas goin in on rick ross on twitter

    • Knickels n Dimes

      wat he do?

      • Elnino_201

        just be half naked in a fur coat lol

  • Elnino_201

    nigga said why didnt they blurr out rick ross tits, rick ross got better side boob than most females, and rick ross look like a dirty stuffed animal lmao

  • KnicksTape

    y can’t rick ross go through like 20 lap band surgeries lol he has the money

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      cause his fat makes him famous

      • Knickels n Dimes

        word, if that nigga wasn’t fat. he wouldn’t be popular right now

  • KnicksTape

    cause my eyes bleed everytime that nigga take that shirt off

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Knickels K. Michelle

    • Knickels n Dimes

      I don’t get it

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        i would smash her

      • KnicksTape

        he telling you she bad

        • Knickels n Dimes

          oh, I dont know who that is

  • KnicksTape

    rick ross owns like 20 wing stops lol

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      he has one in his mansion

      • KnicksTape

        and 800k worth of cars excluding the maybach

        • Long.Live.A$AP

          lmao nigga be sneaking in the wing stop

  • Elnino_201

    lil kim look just like the bride of chucky

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Who is this Fat White dude??? FOH!!!

  • Knickels n Dimes

    The only black women I’ve heard of, with the name michelle, is michelle Obama

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Refresh knickels

    • Knickels n Dimes

      she ok…

  • Knickels n Dimes

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V5RRKdAeoQ
    This song old, but its so good

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Schoolboy Q!!!!!

  • Elnino_201

    ma shit son TDE

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    all the rappers gonna jump this nigga kendrick

    • Elnino_201

      nah lol

  • Boberto

    who da fuck is k michelle

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      Damn Knickels been hanging wit Bigfoot to much and you haven’t been out your room playing 2k in weeks lol

      • Boberto

        nigga only black people know who k michelle is

        • Boberto

          besides that shes a nobody like Knickstape

          • Long.Live.A$AP

            so nino black lol

          • Boberto

            nigga itwasa joke. I know who k michelle is. but if i was out and be like ayo JR was fuckin wit K michelle, nobody would know who the fuck she is

          • KnicksTape

            boberto y you hurting ma feelings thought we were boys

      • Knickels n Dimes

        well sorry, I don’t watch black porn everyday…

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      D@mn dude….Yall Neegaz live under a rock??Lol

      • Boberto

        nigga nobody know who that hoe is besides black people and the occasional spics like Nino

        • Long.Live.A$AP

          Arent you hispanic your name is boberto

          • Boberto

            LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

          • Knickels n Dimes

            no hes one of those terrorists that work at 7 eleven, but they act like they Mexican in disguise

        • Back The Money Truck up….

          Lol

  • Elnino_201

    where soulo

  • Elnino_201

    did you just call me black? lmao

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      lmao boberto said only black people know k. michelle

      • Elnino_201

        very specialllllllllll lol

  • Boberto

    Im so speciulllll

    so speciullll
    soo speciulll
    sooo speciulll

  • Boberto

    imagine niggas in special ed bumpin to special by movado

    • Knickels n Dimes

      that wouldn’t be a pretty sight…

  • KnicksTape

    I bet you fly know who she is lmao

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      no doubt

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    this nigga joel ortiz nice

    • Boberto

      he looks like a DJ Khlaed

    • KnicksTape

      he one of them who responded to kdot

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        funny how the niggas kendrick called out didn’t make a response except for meek mill

        • KnicksTape

          i feel like no response was the best response. If you better than him no need to go to his level

          • Back The Money Truck up….

            Joel Ortiz went in on that Neega….Papoose did too!

          • KnicksTape

            papoose is trash man

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Joel Ortiz trynna get Brolic?? Lol

  • KnicksTape

    lmao I’m watching kevin hart “let me explain’ shit hilarious

    • Knickels n Dimes

      u just now seein it? but yea its funny

      • KnicksTape

        yeah missed it on theaters

  • Elnino_201

    slaughterhouse cyph > asap mob cyph

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      fuck you lol if they wanted to they could of went in

      • KnicksTape

        nigga that was decent but wasn’t anything special

  • Boberto

    We’re up all night to be bums

    -Tysoft and Bumare

    • KnicksTape

      you saw that he’s ranked 37?

      • Boberto

        yea but hes ranked 123rd in the NBA 2k. so thats all that matters

  • KnicksTape

    asap mob just excited to be called up lol

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      except rocky and ferg

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    yo every rapper saids im tryna to give halle berry a baby

    • Knickels n Dimes

      who doesn’t want to give her a baby?

      • Boberto

        white people(not named Billy Bob Thorton)

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        she old but still look good

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Again

  • KnicksTape

    she looked really old and messy in her new movie

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Tysoft gonna average 5 rebounds

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Drake ain’t showing up….

    • KnicksTape

      he crying behind the green room lmao

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      sometime i feel like atlanta adopted us

  • Boberto

    How do yall like my 2k lineup

    PG: Melo
    SG: jR Smith
    SF: Shumpert
    PF: Bumare
    C: Bumnani

    • KnicksTape

      whats ya record

      • Boberto

        30-2

        • Long.Live.A$AP

          so when you play online thats what you put

          • Boberto

            yea

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      this isn’t 2k

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Drake was like kendrick and future are there i aint coming

    • Elnino_201

      he would look mad uncomfortable lmao

  • DJ Mbenga da GOAT

    refreshhhhh

  • Elnino_201

    uh ohh

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      Drake defiantly wasnt coming

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    if you play some nigga and he puts it boberto

    PG: Melo
    SG: jR Smith
    SF: Shumpert
    PF: Bumare
    C: Bumnani

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Queens beats can’t help these BUMS!!!!

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      most of these niggas are from cali too

  • Boberto

    who got 2k14 for xbox doe?

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      nah not yet

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Skinny Biggie??? Yeh aight….

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Here we go again

  • DJ Mbenga da GOAT

    my dude los was gonna be in the cypher but he fxcked up and said he wasn’t getting appreciated enough for all the freestyles and ish he does for free so he wasn’t gonna do it again….woulda murked it though obviously

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Damn Kendrick took this verse to the heart lol

  • KnicksTape
  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Nino’s nigga Haaaaaaaaaaaan

  • kobefan2420

    KDOT!!!

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Kendrick was wack….LOL

    • kobefan2420

      U cant be serious

  • KnicksTape

    kendrick the keebler elf lmao

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      lmao spic drake go ham

  • kobefan2420

    TDE!

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    lmao diddy

  • Elnino_201

    haaaaaaaaaan

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      haaaaaaaaaaaaan

  • Elnino_201

    yo y diddy wearin biggies crown lmao

  • KnicksTape

    lmao burger king crown

  • kobefan2420

    Isaiah rashad go hard tho

    • Elnino_201

      yeah he do lol

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Snoop Lion

  • Elnino_201

    notice how bet reminding everyon the real king comin back lmao eminem

    • DJ Mbenga da GOAT

      ems album is gonna be legendary

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Kendrick was all emotional n Shiit….Neegah wasn’t even rhyming-FOH! Diddy the King of NY!!!!!!! Ha Ha….

    • kobefan2420

      u sound stupid n like a hater

  • Elnino_201

    lol refreeshh

    kendricks verse had niggas like..

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      had me like that

  • Boberto

    Melo is pretty horrible in 2k14

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      but you use him as PG

      • Boberto

        yea.. cuz he misses all his shots

    • kobefan2420

      u crazy…shumpert is tho

      • Boberto

        nah he can only hit shots from one side, but the idiot always stands on the side he misses from

        • kobefan2420

          u must cant shoot wit him cuz I make everything

          • Boberto

            nigga.. im 100 times better than u in 2k. If i cant make it nobody can

          • kobefan2420

            no u not cuz…im 8-0…I dnt lose..like I told u before u beat me when I hadn’t played in months

          • Boberto

            nigga didnt u say sum herb destroyed u the first game u played

          • kobefan2420

            no he didn’t destroy he won by 5 but after that I haven’t lost and im not going too….I don’t have to use a top player like u to be nice either I can use anybody

          • Boberto

            LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO nigga just said hes 8-0

          • kobefan2420

            8-1 doesn’t matter…after I learned how to play im 8-0 n am not gonna lose…I bet u only use the knicks? that’s a sign of a bum

          • Boberto

            its a sign that im a bum cuz i pick my fav team? lmao

          • kobefan2420

            cuz u can only play wit one

          • Boberto

            nah… cuz i choose to play with one team. cuz im a loyal mofucka

          • Boberto

            nigga i only pick the Knicks.. idc whose on the team lmao

          • kobefan2420

            exactly sign of a bum….anybody who is good can win with any team

          • Boberto

            nigga.. u cant beat me with ANY team tho

          • Boberto

            nigga if u didnt sell ur xbox cuz u was scared i woulda played u anyday

          • Long.Live.A$AP

            lmao boberto think he a 2K God

          • kobefan2420

            he isn’t tho

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    A nigga who puts Melo at the one is boberto

  • KnicksTape

    Jared Zwerling ‏@JaredZwerling5h
    Hearing #Knicks camp bigs (Aldrich, Powell & Diogu) up in the air w/ making team. If Chris Smith on team on Oct. 29, he has a roster spot.

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      If Chris Bricks makes the team Jr had somethin ti do wit it

  • KnicksTape

    this is also set up, JR signing means chris smith is 15th man smh

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      yep pretty much

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    lmao Kevin Hart

  • KnicksTape

    lmao yo niggas fighting over here on whos better at 2k?

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      lmao

  • Elnino_201

    your cap ain nothin witout hair underneath lookin at ya arms u needa eat lmao

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Kevin Hart>Kendrick

    • KnicksTape

      they about same height

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Nick Cannon > Kendrick

    • KnicksTape

      lol thats bad cuz Em killed nick cannon in 05

    • Boberto

      lmaooooooooooooo

  • KnicksTape

    so many ppl dickriding kendrick including lebron

  • Boberto

    Im joking. I secretly start Tyson Chandler as my center in 2k. I just dont wnat any1 to know

    • Boberto

      Bumnani is 3rd string Point Guard/Backup C

    • KnicksTape

      you secretly likes tyson chandler Ooooooo

  • Elnino_201

    pin bang ping oping das a gun nigga. lmao

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Uoeno

  • KnicksTape

    whens our next game?

    • Elnino_201

      hursday

      • KnicksTape

        aye thx muchacho

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    You dnt even know it!!!!

  • kobefan2420

    this nigga said cough cough im sick nigga

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    anybody already to dethrone Boberto

    • Boberto

      nigga i accept all challengers and call mad people out. Im the floyd mayweather of 2k

      • KnicksTape

        floyd undefeated tho nigga you lost 2wice

        • Boberto

          floyd mayweather dont take on challenges like i do tho

        • Long.Live.A$AP

          lmao 2 niggas out there better than boberto

          • kobefan2420

            im better

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    NY fell off….

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      what you expect it was in atlanta dirty south

      • Back The Money Truck up….

        It’s Bigger than that….The music Bruh.

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Diddy getting that bread!

  • KnicksTape

    wtf does diddy does now a days?

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      i think he owns his own clothing line and is a business man

      • KnicksTape

        and sells vodka lol

    • Elnino_201

      he collects money from his bitches such as mgk and french montana

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        Montana is a bitch?

        • KnicksTape

          yeah he’s trash

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Diddy got his own Music Channel on Time-Warner….Ninja the richest Hip-Hop Mogul to this day!

  • KnicksTape

    montana got nice beats tho but lyrics are trash

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      when i heard pop that i thought he was gonna be a whack ass rapper but he got some nice lyrics

  • Elnino_201

    word the fck up im souped bone thugs is closing

  • KnicksTape

    i bet knickels don’t get BET in south dakota it’s blocked lmao

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Lol

    • Knickels n Dimes

      actually we do get it, asshole

  • Boberto

    Yo mrkobefan imma be retired from video games by friday so if u wanna get that ass whooped holla at me on xbox

  • KnicksTape

    lmao snoop giving out sandwiches

  • Elnino_201

    yo bacon sausage egg n cheese sandiwch wit grape jelly lmao

  • Boberto

    at the next fake award show that only black people and the occasional spics watch, snoop needa holla at me for those Popeyes givaways

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Nobody want that greasy shiit….

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    Rick Ross titties>Kendrick

    • KnicksTape

      lmao yo chilll with that image nasty

      • Back The Money Truck up….

        LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Refresh lol

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Lmao………

  • KnicksTape

    asap you need to get banned for that pic

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      wtf i do

      • KnicksTape

        man no one wants to see rick ross titties lol

        • Long.Live.A$AP

          lmao nigga shows all the time

  • danny55885588

    Wadd up Bums ?

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      oh jeez

      • Long.Live.A$AP

        creepin

        • danny55885588

          just came here.

          • Long.Live.A$AP

            not u nigga poet

          • danny55885588

            this ni99a poet got 13 down on some other articles………lol

          • Long.Live.A$AP

            yeah i seen it

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yo that my ni99a song is funny

    af

    • Boberto

      ma mofuckin nigga?

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      what i told ya bout southern music TRASH

  • Boberto

    Free BIll Walker

    • danny55885588

      bill walker is a bum except in 2K.

  • Back The Money Truck up….

    This Eminem song is TRASH!

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      damn tape gonna get on yo ass

      • Back The Money Truck up….

        Tape can’t possibly like this song and Video….

  • Ericknicks

    Watup

    • Boberto

      hey babe

      • Ericknicks

        Whoa lol

        • Boberto

          lmaooo

        • Knicks_11ThePoet

          u like it dont u

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    Berzerk- 5.2/10

    Rap God- 8.9/10

  • Ericknicks

    Poet you answered to it lol

  • Ericknicks

    Kanye songs be getting mad play on tv

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      he deserves it

      • Ericknicks

        He do

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      He’s a weirdo…..

  • Ericknicks

    Need to make watch the throne 2

  • Boberto

    EricKnicks be like
    “I love it when u talk dirty to me”

    lmaooooooooooooo

  • Ericknicks

    Kanye not weird he just a rich ngga wit swag lol

  • Ericknicks

    Lol yeah Boberto I do when my gurl say it

    • Boberto

      bitches who talk dirty are the best

      • Ericknicks

        Yes they are lol

  • Ericknicks

    Money truck if you was rich you would wear anything too like Kanye lol

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Iam Rich….That’s why I’m the Money Truck! I dnt wear tight Fvck Boy clothing.

  • Ericknicks

    Kanye be weraring gladiator skirts lol

    • Back The Money Truck up….

      Neega you said he got swag tho….Neegaz need to pull up that skirt and expose those ovaries!

  • Boberto

    Prigioni NBA 2k14 backup Small Forward

  • Ericknicks

    should we keep Jeremy Tyler lol

  • Ericknicks

    Where everybody at lol

  • Knickels n Dimes

    If I had a quarter for every time Ericknicks said “lol”….

  • Boberto

    if i had a quarter for everytime Knickels girls SMD, id still be broke. Cuz that bitch be chargin a quarter a pop

    • Knickels n Dimes

      my girls don’t fuck wit Alkaida…. or Talibans….

      • Knicks_11ThePoet

        ni99a u prob dont know what they do what they are about

        • Knickels n Dimes

          I know that the only girls they get are the ones that are wrapped in dem scarfs

      • Boberto

        nigga more black people are Alkaida and Talibans than Indian. Mad black people be turning Muslim lol. And did u also know black people got the highest gay population

        • Knicks_11ThePoet

          ni99a dont know all that. too much for him to process

        • Knickels n Dimes

          the day that I see a nigga wit a turdan on his head, is the day that pigs will fly… fuck outta here…

          • Boberto

            mofucka black CHICKS be wearing turbans lmaooo. i seen that shit. U ever herd of Nas? that nigga muslim as fuck

          • Knickels n Dimes

            does Nas blow himself up for fun?

          • Boberto

            his people do

          • Boberto

            nigga when u see an indian chick with a turban on her head let me know LMAO

          • Knicks_11ThePoet

            now ur in dilemma, u said all muslims are terrorists but since nas is a muslim u think he doesnt blow himself?

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    Jared Zwerling: Hearing #Knicks camp bigs (Aldrich, Powell & Diogu) up in the air w/ making team. If Chris Smith on team on Oct. 29, he has a roster spot. Twitter @JaredZwerling

    Ian Begley: One thing to consider on #Kncis G Chris Smith: I’d heard his contract becomes fully guaranteed if he spends one day on the roster. Twitter @IanBegley

    Jared Zwerling: Re: Chris Smith, if he’s on #Knicks on Oct. 29, he gets a roster spot & $490k guaranteed (even if they cut him after 29th, still gets paid). Twitter @JaredZwerling

  • Knickels n Dimes

    I’m gonna leave y’all malu’s by y’all selves, so y’all talk can about bombs or whatever y’all talk about when nobody’s here. But I’ll leave y’all this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkTZ8BVAlFE

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      u copy other pplz stuff

      • Knickels n Dimes

        well obviously, do I look like comedy central to u?

        • Knicks_11ThePoet

          no ppl that post stuff here.

          be original u bum

          • Knickels n Dimes

            nigga I was the first one that posted that shit, stop actin like yo punk ass don’t remember that shit

          • Knicks_11ThePoet

            no it was gottakeepitreal or one of those herbs

            def aint u.

          • Knickels n Dimes

            “ok”, if thats wat u want to think….

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yo knickles why havent u left

    anyways lol? i think boberto is out

  • jtru001

    yoooo

    • DJ Mbenga da GOAT

      yoyoyo

    • DJ Mbenga da GOAT

      jt what time do you start work? you’re always the first one here lmao

      • jtru001

        lmao i come in 6:30 so 7:30 your time lol

        • nylsjd

          damn, that’s mad early

  • jtru001

    its been dead af in here recently wtf….

    • nylsjd

      life my man…. slow demise of the daily chats

      • jtru001

        yea bro….i hear you…seems like our little community is comming to an end lol

        • GottaKeepItReal

          lol you just get to work wayy too early

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yeoo

    • jtru001

      what up malu

  • jtru001

    yo nyls you with the nfl office yet?

    • nylsjd

      yea, started yesterday

      • Knickels n Dimes

        u need to talk to goodell and tell him stop handin out so many fines

        • nylsjd

          the guy who determines the fines sit right by me… just watches plays of every game all day

          • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

            WOW lol

          • Knickels n Dimes

            damn

        • nylsjd

          i’ll definitely see Goodell a decent amount of time, his office is the floor above mine and he eats lunch with all of us low levels

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    YAOOOO

  • nylsjd

    Yo knickels you had me dying this morning… your comment about Eric using “lol” was spot on. Literally, every comment.

    • Knickels n Dimes

      hes annoyin as fuck

    • GottaKeepItReal

      and Omar always “lmao”

  • Knickels n Dimes

    wait so gooodell’s office is in NY?

    • nylsjd

      yea… the entire league headquarters is in NY… NFL films is in NJ, NFL Network is california, and then believe it or not they have offices in China, Japan & London… NFL Europe still technically exists “lol”

  • GottaKeepItReal

    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/15/j-r-smith-says-hed-prefer-to-be-a-starter/

    lol some dudes comment: Typo alert. Heading is supposed to read ” JR Smith says he’d prefer to be smarter”.

    • nylsjd

      awesome

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    FAK
    - BXNYLIFE

    • nylsjd

      also true…. and annoying as hell

      • Knicks_11ThePoet

        I FINd that funny af tho

        • nylsjd

          at times… majority is boring as hell

  • Knickels n Dimes

    nyl, u need a secretary?

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      no ones scared of a 12 year old black dumass

      • nylsjd

        wtf does this mean poet? lmao

        • GottaKeepItReal

          theyd make a cute couple

        • Knicks_11ThePoet

          lma0 jk jk
          just getting him irritated

    • nylsjd

      lol nah man i’m all set… come visit, you can hang out in the officiating command center… it’s just a room of 9000 tv’s

      • Knickels n Dimes

        u gotta let me meet Goodell, so I can punch him in his jaw

        • nylsjd

          weird

  • GottaKeepItReal

    “Because that’s how ESPN.com’s SCHOENE system predicts the season will go
    for New York. They see the Knicks going 37-45 this year and finishing
    seventh in the Eastern Conference” …wtf is this Schoene system, thats a major dissappointment/regression that I dont see likely if Melo is healthy

    • nylsjd

      I’ve only seen it for baseball… this makes me sad, but it’s really accurate a good amount of the time. Obviously it misses some teams bad, but historically it gets about 85% of their predictions correct w/in 3-5 wins for baseball (which is crazy)

      • nylsjd

        it’s PECOTA for baseball though

      • GottaKeepItReal

        damn, and baseball is way more difficult to predict, thas not a good sign lol, wish they gave some reasons why for the record they predict

        • GottaKeepItReal

          o it does, didnt finish reading the article, but very broad reason, nothing specific unless theres more in the insider article

          • GottaKeepItReal

            As SCHOENE points out, New York probably won’t make or take as many
            threes as they did last season, when they set NBA records in both
            categories. But I don’t think the impact of the the loss of Jason Kidd, Steve Novak and Chris Copeland will as earth-shattering as SCHOENE projects.

          • nylsjd

            Yea, i don’t see how they can project a 17 win decrease. Yea we likely won’t have a 13 game winning streak again, but that’s just crazy. The team is definitely improved from last year roster wise.

          • nylsjd
          • GottaKeepItReal

            ah good looks

          • nylsjd

            way too technical for me

          • GottaKeepItReal

            yeah with their prediction being vastly different from what we expected, dunno how much value this system has to me personally, I look at it w alot of flaws of course bc of that

  • Knickels n Dimes

    nyl. wat do u do in the office?

    • nylsjd

      i’m a law clerk… my department consists of 4 attorneys (there are only 10 at the entire league office) and we handle, from the league side, any grievance that a player brings forth. Whther it be for injury or non-injury. It’s all CBA interpretation and labor related

      • nylsjd

        so like 4 players filed grievances yesterday… i obviously can’t tell you who or about what… so we’ll handle the matter from the league side on behalf of the team

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    While almost a quarter of the 26 players who participated in an ESPN The Magazine poll thinkLeBron James will finish as the best NBA player ever, none of them want him taking the last shot if Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant are also on the floor.

    James received decidedly mixed reviews from the players, all of whom were granted anonymity, in the poll conducted for the magazine’s NBA preview issue.

    • nylsjd

      do they mean statistically the greatest player ever?

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Picking the knicks going 37-45 is like comparing them to bucks

    • nylsjd

      to take it for what it’s worth… they nailed the Knicks perfectly during the lockout season, and missed terribly on them last year. They had them at .500 or slightly above last year I think.

    • godsent224

      Yo the hate is strong when it comes to the Knicks. smh

      • nylsjd

        the projection systems generally don’t like teams with older players… they put insane regressions on them if they had a good year the season prior

        • godsent224

          I never even heard of this shit till yesterday. What was the ranking last year then?

          • nylsjd

            they had them a little above .500 last year… but were spot on during the lockout

          • godsent224

            Where can I find this?

          • nylsjd

            i think they’re all on the basketball prospectus website

          • godsent224

            from what I read only espn uses this system.

          • nylsjd

            it’s not espn’s system though… espn is trying to get more analytic/sabermetric based so they pluck things from fangraphs, baseball prospectus, basketball prospectus, etc. SCHOENE is a basketball prospectus advent

  • godsent224

    Yo the sad thing is dude tried to write an article supporting his bullshit computer prediction. Should of just ate it and say his system is trash

    • nylsjd

      i was saying to GottaKeepItReal before… he’s trying to copy the baseball one which is insanely accurate a good amount of the time despite a really long season. i honestly think the systems are intended more for sports books setting over/unders

      • godsent224

        Like said before I’v never heard of this system before. That tells me no one even pays attention to it. The only reason its being talked about now is because its the Knicks and everyone knows how wrong it is.

        • nylsjd

          ESPN posted it, i think that’s why he brought it up

          • godsent224

            Im talking about the only reason espn posted it. I’v never seen them post it before. Cant even find the predictions for everyone else

          • nylsjd

            they just put the nuggets up today… they’re doing it for every team

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    http://instagram.com/p/fbldXDlNKh/

    Lma0 C smith is a fool

    • Long.Live.A$AP

      I better find ur love

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    Godesent was like “Bogus! Bogus! Bogus!” lmao

    • godsent224

      lol the whole shit was bogus

  • nylsjd

    @3aeae20d5d4a4f8e63afe16456970e35:disqus those systems have to be taken with a grain of salt… i’ll find the full projection for every team, bookmark, and we’ll compare at the end of the year to see how accurate it was. they’re just trying to predict through their historical database. nothing wrong with that. for whatever reason, sports fans absolve themselves from heavy statistical use even though every well run business in america uses the same systems

    • nylsjd

      this was supposed to be for you, Godsent

    • godsent224

      I seen what the predictions were for last year and they had the Hawks #2. I will never take any merit in this system

      • nylsjd

        i hear you… looking over it, it was spot on for some teams and off on others. In the east, it nailed Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Washington, Charlotte almost to the exact win. Like I said, gotta take it with a grain of salt.

        • godsent224

          Just the Chicago ranking makes me know how bogus it is. Unless they figured in that Rose would take the whole year off how can anyone believe it.

          • nylsjd

            I’m almost positive that they did factor that in. Anyway, that stuff and the algorithms they create are beyond my comprehension

          • godsent224

            No one thought he’d take the whole year off. Id bet you they didnt.

          • nylsjd

            hard to know for sure either way

          • godsent224

            I know. Im on the list now but they dont tell you much

          • nylsjd

            Either way, just one of many projection systems. I personally think they’ll be way off on the knicks this year. System puts too much onus on a players age and their regression relative to players who have historically played at those ages, without taking into account the actual skill level of each particular player. I would venture to say MWP is better than your average 33 year old.

  • GottaKeepItReal

    Gmen jus signed Peyton Hillis for whatevers its worth

    • nylsjd

      yea, he was taking his physical yesterday… they had to cut Scott

      • GottaKeepItReal

        lol watch us resign scott for a 3rd time during the course of the year

        • nylsjd

          he may done for the year

  • nylsjd

    Ahhh that’s right, I forgot Nate Silver created the baseball system. Dude is an f’ing genius

  • godsent224

    @nylsd from what im reading opinion is a big factor in this guys system. Other systems that I know of use only numbers/stats. heres what im talking about

    .For most players, SCHOENE uses a pool of 50 comparable players to estimate how age will affect their performance this season. For players with unique skill sets, this group is smaller, and for a handful like Fisher and Nash, SCHOENE uses the typical aging curve rather than similar players.

    Who is determining these players skill sets?

    • nylsjd

      they’re looking at the historical data of all players who have ever played and using an algorithm to find a statistical comp

      • nylsjd

        how they define those skill sets, i have no idea. i’m not sure what their algorithms consist of

        • godsent224

          Im confused on why they would grade Fisher and Nash on the same curve.

          • nylsjd

            i’m not sure they meant on the same curve as each other, i think they were just naming two players and trying to finding players historically with the same skill set. but i honestly don’t know too much about the system

  • Ericknicks

    Anybody here

    • nylsjd

      lol

  • Knickels n Dimes

    hell no?

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      udrih article?

  • nylsjd

    Disqus is being weird on the site again

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      yea

  • Gate-7-

    Guess we’re taking a discussion break until tomorrow. Thanks Disqus.

    Season needs to start

  • GottaKeepItReal

    Disqus buggn?

    • nylsjd

      disqus certainly has a lot of bugs

  • nylsjd

    They are chanting vociferously, in honor of clyde, for a-rod outside my office

    • GottaKeepItReal

      lol prolly all Domincans

      • nylsjd

        sure is… mlb office is across the street

  • danny55885588

    wadd up ??????

    • nylsjd

      garbage can dan, whats going on

  • danny55885588

    According to SCHOENE prediction……Knicks will finish 37-45 @ 7th place in a EAST.

    • nylsjd

      according to your mom, you’ll finally leave your basement in 2030

      • danny55885588

        BUM…why do u want me to start trolling again ?

        • nylsjd

          what do you mean again? you’re doing it right now

          • danny55885588

            what did I say anything bad about it ?

          • nylsjd

            it was already discussed ad nauseum below, just read it rather than come on here as a brooklyn fan trying to instigate

  • BxNY4LIFE

    lmao…..

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      hush

      fool

      • BxNY4LIFE

        lmao….FAK you you faking Pindi….lmao

  • BxNY4LIFE

    if Stat plays more than 10 mins per game this year it’ll be because of divine intervention…I must say I love his heart and will tho..

  • nylsjd

    What do y’all think of the player profiles so far?

  • BxNY4LIFE

    It’s already a know fact that there’s entities out there that’s trying their best to discredit the NY Knicks..they come with all type of stories and bar graphs to try and prove their idiotic point…I’m so happy that these people cannot give the NBA title away to their true love before the competition has even started…I love being the underdog and proving these azzholes wrong… trashing their science in the process…lmao

    • nylsjd

      how exactly do you trash their science? they are setting forth projections, they’re not saying it’s gospel

      • BxNY4LIFE

        by winning..lmao
        Oh! and BTW…you’re every bit as good as what you write in the press…if you’re not then stop writing cause you’re nothing but a faking clown

        • nylsjd

          that doesn’t trash anything though… they’re using whatever algorithms they concoct to offer a projection. were you going to trash Nate Silver’s science if he didn’t go 51 for 51 this past election?

          • BxNY4LIFE

            I love the word concoct..that word proves the point…any idiot can concoct anything to try to make his dumb azz relevant…the one thing I most enjoy about sports is the game is won on the field of play and not in Vegas

          • nylsjd

            definition of concoct: to make something with varying ingredients. if you think the person who created that projection system is a dumb ass, well then to each his own

          • BxNY4LIFE

            garbage in …garbage out…if you have a bias then you will concoct based on your bias

  • BxNY4LIFE

    If I were to project that the world was going to end in the year of our Lord 2012 like some quack did..and it didn’t end ..Then STFU nobody wants to hear your dumb azz projections

    • nylsjd

      yea, because there was any science or math involved with that lmao

      • BxNY4LIFE

        you’re crazy…I guess you weren’t around to tell that to the Mayans

        • nylsjd

          what science was involved? it was a bunch of people centuries ago making a a calendar

          • BxNY4LIFE

            lmao…you’re one funny dude

          • nylsjd

            i’ve noticed that when you can’t refute something, you go with the “you’re one funny dude” line… it’s your typical “i’m wrong but i’ll pretend i’m right” response

          • BxNY4LIFE

            you haven’t noticed sheet …cause you know nothing about me…be more concerned about yourself than with others..lmao

          • nylsjd

            stop with the “lmao” when you’re not laughing. it’s almost as annoying as yourself in general

          • Knickels n Dimes

            everyone does that includin u, I guess its just a habit for people…

          • nylsjd

            i don’t put it in every post though… only when it’s necessary to show sarcasm

          • BxNY4LIFE

            lmao…how the fak do you know that I’m not laughing at you…see lawyers are liars so if you use yourself to judge others then what your feeble mind concoct will be so…lmao

          • nylsjd

            ok, omar

          • BxNY4LIFE

            can’t touch this….lmao

  • BxNY4LIFE

    I wish we were able to apply more than one down arrow to a post…can’t someone give us the ability to give someone a million down votes…lmao

    • nylsjd

      you have 2 on every post, so not sure what you’re referring to

      • BxNY4LIFE

        grow up kid… you on some kinda power trip…keep that sheet to your family…..when you close your door at home…leave that sheet behind…lmao

  • Knickels n Dimes

    so…. we move to new article?(German accent)

    • nylsjd

      works for me

      • Knickels n Dimes

        ok then we go

  • Knickels n Dimes

    we’re goin to the Udrih article

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    so it went from me to BX

    on the disliking thing?

  • jtru001

    yoooo whats good???