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GAME RECAP – Knicks 98, Wizards 89

If you relied solely upon the box score from last night’s Knicks’ 98-89 victory over the Wizards, you might think it was a good win. Led by its solid shooting — particularly from the outside — New York held a double digit lead for most of the second half  and cruised to their second victory of the preseason.

Unfortunately, however, the performances of Tim Hardaway Jr., Toure’ Murry and Carmelo Anthony were overshadowed by injuries sustained by two of the Knicks’ most critical players, Iman Shumpert and Pablo Prigioni.  Shump and Prigs each suffered sprained elbows, and neither returned to the game after going down. Should either guard need to miss significant time, New York will suddenly find itself extremely thin in the backcourt, and there no easy answers from a roster perspective. Both players are expected to be evaluated in New York today, but for what it’s worth, Shumpert told the media after the game that he’ll be fine.

On the bright side, the early exits for Shumpert and Prigioni opened up playing time for Hardaway Jr. and Murry, and each stepped up in a major way. Sure, it’s only preseason action, but minutes are minutes and every time these gusy are on the floor is another opportunity for coach Woodson and his staff to evaluate and develope the precious neophytes. If healthy, the Knicks are extremely deep at the guard position, but the performances of Murry and Hardaway suggest that both are capable of providing a short-term solution should they be called on.

WHAT WENT RIGHT:

    • Carmelo Anthony led the Knicks with 22 points on 8-of-17 shooting. He was particularly effective from midrange and he also chipped in 5 boards and 4 dimes. What more is there to say about the NBA’s reigning scoring champion, anyway? He’s money, Baby. (Literally, too, whe he opts out next summer. Sigh.)
    • Andrea Bargnani showed signs that he can be extremely effective on offense playing next to ‘Melo, scoring an efficient 13 points on only 7 shots. He was particularly good in the 1st quarter, where dropped 9 points. Knicks fans are going to really appreciate the way that Bargnani draws fouls via the head fake.
    • Hardaway, Jr. had 14 points, 9 of which came on three pointers. It’s been pretty obvious through three preseason games that he is an excellent catch-and-shoot artist, so perhaps Tim can provide some of the marksmenship lost by New York after the departures of Steve Novak and Chris Copeland in the offseason.
    • Murry played some pesky defense on John Wall and contributed 14 points and 2 assists on the offensive end. It still remains to be seen whether Murry will make the roster, but his summer league and preseason play suggest that he deserves a spot in the league. At worst, he should be to provide competent minutes as an injury replacement.
    • Ike Diogu is going to make this team. He once again outshined Josh Powell and Cole Aldrich (who only played 4 minutes), grabbing 8 rebounds and scoring 10 points. Diogu is perfectly fit as an end-of-the-bench big who can grab some boards and/or start a fistfight with Kevin Garnett.
    • Beno Udrih was solid in orchestrating the 2nd unit offense. His +/- numbers was +24, and watching him play somewhat alleviates fear of the stand-around-and-watch-JR-Smith-do-his-thing offense that plagued the team at times last season. 
    • Before he got injured, Shumpert had an awesome put-back dunk. He is the best.

 

WHAT WENT WRONG:

  • Predictably, New York’s defense with ‘Melo at the 4 and Bargnani at the 5 was atrocious; there was no interior presence at all. Tyson Chandler only played 6 minutes, so hopefully Woodson isn’t actually serious about deploying this lineup with any regularity once the regular season commences.
  • Speaking of Chandler, he missed his lone jump shot attempt. Much has been made of whether Tyson can actually be something of a stretch-5, and though I think the odds of that coming to fruition are beyond long, he actually doesn’t have a awful form. If he can be a poor man’s Charles Oakley with the jumper, that can only help Anthony and Bargs.
  • The Knicks suffered greatly in transition defense, especially in the first half. They also looked a bit slow on their rotations, which has been typical, leading to open shots that the Wizards couldn’t convert. (Washington shot just 16.1% from three.)
  • The Chris Smith-as-an-NBA-player experiment needs to end. J.R. must have some awfully good nudde pics of Dolan, otherwise there is simply no reason for little bro to be on this team
  • C.J. Leslie didn’t play in the game, so it remains to be seen if his partially guaranteed contract means that he will be here, sent to the D-League, or outright waived.

KNICK KNACKS:

  • The game was played in Carmelo Anthony’s hometown of Baltimore. His homecoming was swell and all, but Anthony’s pregame comments about his impending free agency kind of put a damper on things.
  • Nice camera angle, Guys. I am still fighting vertigo over 12 hours later.
  • During the postgame, Woodson did not seem too concerned about the injuries to Shumpert and Prigioni.
  • The Knicks have a few days off before heading to Toronto to play the Raptors on Monday. The game will be televised at 7 pm on MSG.
  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    YAOOO

  • largehrdsports

    Bargnani is looking like a great interior passer. Too bad none of the Knicks bigs can catch. He made two nice passes but Tyson and Diogu never even looked for the ball, bums. Damn, I wish Amar’e had knees. Stat and Bargnani in the post on offense would be nice.

    • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

      Yea, Bargs looked good last night

  • jtru001

    yoooo

  • Gate-7-

    Son where’s bumberto i need to hear what this herb has to say about Bargnani now.

    Lmao…. when you learn the way of the herb its hard to escape

  • Gate-7-

    In other news them Nets put in work…… I feel terrible to say it but if they are healthy all season ….. they are far deeper than we are….

    • jtru001

      fxck the nets lol…

      • Gate-7-

        Im with you…. but thats the kind of rebuilding I hope we can put together when the ball gets rolling next

        • jtru001

          i hope not lol…they team is built for 2 -3yrs max lol…i wanna have a great team for a lot longer

          • Gate-7-

            But I mean 2-3 years then all the contracts fall off the books due to expirations or retiring …… they have all the room to make MORE big moves in 2-3-4 years.

            Im just saying I hope our moves are smart. Not 5 year deals for unproven players…. with shady/spotty histories

          • jtru001

            true i see where you going now…

    • GottaKeepItReal

      at this point the biggest difference, Nets got 2-3 players they can rely on come playoff time, and the Knicks really only have 1 atm

      • jtru001

        I think Metta is reliable in the playoffs to play solid…he is aging but still a dependable player…

        • GottaKeepItReal

          I agree, im high on MWP, Woodsons gotta give him PT tho

          • jtru001

            true i think he will prove himself to woody…gonna have to if he can get 10-13 pts a night w/ solid d im good w/ that

        • Gate-7-

          Woodson has to figure out how to get this team involved.

          It was irritating watchin Melo bring the ball up court on MULTIPLE occassions and then the whole team get stagnant as they shift lets watch what Melo does wit it (ISO)

          • jtru001

            i hate that about woody and our team in general…he shows no creativity on offense at all…its all iso or PnR all the time so predictable….its why i was hoping we got Doc this offseason lol

      • Gate-7-

        But thats a BIG difference though bro. If those guys are healthy its a tough run in the east.

        Joe Kirilennko, Pierce…. thats only the 3 spot….. both those dudes (not so much Johnson) can play Melo

        • GottaKeepItReal

          Melo come playoff time, no matter whose guarding him will get his, not worried about whose defending him bc hell also see alot of doubles…..its the guys around him that have to be efficient offensively in the playoffs which is still a ??

          • Gate-7-

            Very true….. this is why Im hoping Bargs turn out to be gold for us. Both him and Melo are threats and draw defenders…. opening the floor for the other 4 guys.

            He’s looking good now.. but I think he can be better.

          • GottaKeepItReal

            yeah same, tryna be optimistic, if he can shoot 40%fg, 35% 3pfg at minimum, id be hyped.

          • Gate-7-

            He’s got 47 points in the preseason ….. 7 behind Melo …..

            It may not look like he’s putting in work but he’s getting the points

          • GottaKeepItReal

            I like what I see so far, but I dont wanna give him too much props yet, I wanna see it translate into wins / see efficiency in the reg season.

  • jtru001

    yo gate i honestly feel that KG and PP are both on borrowed time…sadly tho i also have the same feeling for Bargs and most def stat as well..which sucks cuz they are much younger than KG and PP…

    • largehrdsports

      Why Bargnani? He’s not even 30.

      • jtru001

        injury prone man…look at all the time he missed the past couple of years

        • largehrdsports

          But wasn’t that due to upper body injuries? Those, generally, aren’t as bad or nagging as lower ones.

          • jtru001

            yea …i mean i hope he is good to go but i just cant blindly jump in on him w/ out proof ..i hope he can be a major contributor tho and take some pressure off melo bu we will see.

    • Gate-7-

      Im not worried about Bargs…. as long as he’s clear of back, leg injuries he’ll work out. We just need to figure out how to utilize him and Melo with plays etc.

      Nets will get a year maybe two out of those guys and they will retire….. which is the bad part because then they have money to compete with us for selections etc.

      • jtru001

        really starting to hate the nets…they slowly rising to the top of my most hated franchises in sports right behind Dallas and Miami lol

        • Gate-7-

          They got that [Former soviet] monneeeeeeyyy

          • jtru001

            lmaoo

  • jtru001

    i read that melo article on espn…and then got to the coments smh got me pissed off first thing this morning…

  • largehrdsports

    This could be a formidable and possibly our best available front court: Melo, Martin, and Bargs

    • jtru001

      wow…old man martin didnt even thing about him lol w/ all the 4′s we got he kinda gets lost in the shuffle i wonder how woody is gonna determine mins come season time

    • GottaKeepItReal

      yeah I definitely wanna see how this linuep looks on the court as well.

  • Gate-7-

    Bargs played at C spot. What did yall think about that. Granted these were the Wizards but I cant say I HATED his work there….. better than Powell at least.

    I like him there in that Centers have to play VERY far from the basket in the off chance he tries a midrange or 3PT shot……….. then it becomes easy to beat them off the dribble

    • GottaKeepItReal

      me and large were discussing this last article, this is def a topic of discussion, though I dont think any of us have seen enough of Bargs in Woodsons system yet to accurately judge. But his help/rotation D def is not up to par in terms of rim protecting, as well not bein quick enough to guard smalls if the switch occurs (woodson always switches).

      • jtru001

        but if you pair him w/ kmart or metta on the floor when he at C it could work and open up the lane wide open for dudes like melo, felt, shump and jr etc…

    • largehrdsports

      Bargnani’s passing is on point but our bigs can’t catch and don’t even look for the ball around the basket, especially Tyson. He only looks for lob passes.

      • GottaKeepItReal

        ye it sucks TC is our only big to dump it off too, if we had Amare, wow…Melo, Amare, Bargs…Felton would turn into a 10 ass dude

      • Gate-7-

        yup..

        Its also encouraging that he’s just under 50% for Field goals made….. hopefully he can maintain/ get better

      • jtru001

        TC is just a bum journeyman that can play within a team D…gets beat 1on1 regularly…which is the exact opposite of melo and even stat…them two the way i see it are decent one on one and terrible team defenders as far as rotations go anyway

        • GottaKeepItReal

          I actually like TC has a help defender/rim protector, his lenghth does alter alot of shots that doesnt showup on the stat sheet, and he does play hard, even if hes not the most effective

          • jtru001

            problem is tho he regularly looses his one on one matchup

          • GottaKeepItReal

            lol true, but we got enough weapons offensively to make up for it, its jus that they gotta be efficient

          • jtru001

            true

        • largehrdsports

          Yup Tyson’s a great back up center.

          • GottaKeepItReal

            Tyson is a starting C, just not a 14mill $$ one

          • largehrdsports

            Yeah, he’s definitely overpaid.

        • Gate-7-

          In a logical world a Center like Bogut or Gasol would be our starting Big man…… Tyson Chandler would come off the bench……… in 2nd unit….. My life would be complete.

          (from a sports-Knicks) standpoint

          • jtru001

            completely agree

  • Gate-7-

    The reason we’re all jaded by TC is because like Amare he’s overpaid. If he was making a modest salary I wouldnt care… as long as he gave his all every game…..

    problem is he’s getting superstar money and hasnt shown he can play up to his pricetag

    • GottaKeepItReal

      agreed

    • largehrdsports

      What Gate said and Tyson talks sh/t: “I didn’t come here for this!” and “I’ve always had a high shooting average.” Those comments were kinda outrageous.

    • jtru001

      word….i would still hate his tap backs tho lol

      • largehrdsports

        and that big n/gga be wearing skinny jeans

        • jtru001

          no not skinny jeans that mf wears capris man….lol

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Javale!!!!!!

    • jtru001

      im big on javale actually the dude is a freak athlete and gets mad blocks…decent post game as well

    • largehrdsports

      My dude Rich use to say that last year on ESPN and dude shot him down for that.

      • jtru001

        a lot of us did…what happened to rich?

        • largehrdsports

          ? Richuum was my boi tho

          • jtru001

            yea where he been?

          • largehrdsports

            I don’t know. Maybe he missed the memo to move to Knicks wall?

          • jtru001

            i guess….do you still talk to him?

          • largehrdsports

            Nah, I don’t know him like that. lol

          • jtru001

            oh ok lol…

  • jtru001

    i actually really like Denvers front court of Javale and Faried….they both are beasts and young af…

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Ya dont understand Javale is a beast he just need a teacher Woodson set that nigga straight

  • largehrdsports

    Package up Shump and Tyson (you could add Ray too) right now and see who’s interested.

    • jtru001

      i could see that….tho i think felt is more than servicable right now…

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yeo

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yo chicago bulls announcers

    are annoying af

    • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

      Stacy King is annoying as shit

      • jtru001

        how do she look tho that is the important thing lol

        • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

          Its a dude……

          • Knicks_11ThePoet

            lol

          • jtru001

            oh lmaoo i read stacy and assumed it was a girl

      • largehrdsports

        When Stacy King talks it sounds like he has food in his mouth.

  • jtru001

    any of yall watch the football game last night??? Palmer looks cooked he needs to quit imo

    • GottaKeepItReal

      that O line combined w Palmer bumass inaccuracy…so bad

      • jtru001

        yea they looking at mettenberger in the draft i guess.

        • GottaKeepItReal

          that team has mad talent too, dunno how they havent figured out their qb situation…Arias face last night was like “this dude is horrible”

          • jtru001

            lmaoo…what a waste of Larry Fitzgeralds career man

          • GottaKeepItReal

            forreal, in Fitz defense, Az payn him Bank

          • jtru001

            true but he wont go down as one of the best ever as he should be….he should be breaking all types of records and getting rings…put him w/ the giants or a team w/ a qb and he beats megatron as best WR in the game imo

          • GottaKeepItReal

            maybe, he def needs a qb, dunno if hes better than Megatron tho, thas debatable

          • jtru001

            it would be interesting tho….fitz getting older now getting out of his prime and its a shame…

          • GottaKeepItReal

            ye agreed

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    QBs from USC…… idek

    • jtru001

      i cant really think of a good one lol….

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    sounds like a 13 yr old in a grown mans

    body.. smh someone needs to punch that dude

  • Knicks_11ThePoet
  • GottaKeepItReal
    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      i told u that. seriously a good candidate for us

      • GottaKeepItReal

        it would be so perfect

      • jtru001

        i would be so down

  • jtru001

    yo just read an article RG3 admited to wanting to take more hits he does it to draw penalties he said he runs out of bounds and stops knowing that the defender chasing wont be able to stop in time and hit him out of bounds lol….mad grimey..

    • GottaKeepItReal

      lol dude is desperate to make positive plays, something he hasnt done consistently at all

      • jtru001

        its grimey tho right??? to jump out of bounds and stands there waiting to get ran the fxck over??? wtf kind of strategy is that

        • GottaKeepItReal

          lol yeah agreed, play the game properly w.o having to rely on flags

          • jtru001

            its a straight up bitch move imo

  • jtru001

    looks like the sox gonna go to world series smh…hate to see boston teams win anything …

    • GottaKeepItReal

      wakeup call for yanks if sox succeed

      • jtru001

        yup…mets just need to learn to play baseball lmao

        • GottaKeepItReal

          lmao true

  • jtru001

    detroits front court looks ugly af…Drummond, Monroe, J smoove at SF lol

    • GottaKeepItReal

      J Smoove at 3 doesnt make me hyped until I see it on the court. Monroe and Drummond are studs

      • jtru001

        smoove is slow af and very inconsistant J tho

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      lol, they all look like brothers

  • Ericknicks

    Jt josh smith is soft lol

  • Ericknicks

    Detroit tryna do like whn then they had Ben Wallace nd Rasheed

  • Ericknicks

    Y everytime the Knicks play it seem like Felton is not on he floor lol

  • Ericknicks

    Damn this $hit zzzzzzzzzzzz

  • Boberto

    WWOWW they rated Melo 15th. thats some bullshit

    • Ericknicks

      So lol

      • Boberto

        theres not 14 players better than melo

    • GottaKeepItReal

      damnnn, thats bs

  • Ericknicks

    There’s only 2 better than melo

  • GottaKeepItReal

    Tim Duncan 16h, Melo 15th, wtf…which 15 are better than those 2

  • Ericknicks

    What powerforwards better than Duncan lol

  • Ericknicks

    Damn this must be sleepy day

    • largehrdsports

      It’s Friday. Most people don’t have class on Friday and sleep in.

  • Ericknicks

    I don’t have class lol

    • GottaKeepItReal

      I thought you attended Columbia Univeristy?

      • Ericknicks

        Lol hell no

  • Ericknicks

    I’m done wit college got kicked out lol

    • GottaKeepItReal

      lol whatd you do?

      • Boberto

        be too smart

    • Boberto

      where you go? harvard?

      • largehrdsports

        He attends the Harvard School of TV Repair.

  • largehrdsports

    “That show the Amazing Race, is it about white people?”
    -zach galifianakis

  • theflyeststar

    real knickas wassup

    • Ericknicks

      Sup

      • theflyeststar

        chillin like a villain

    • jtru001

      happy tgif brother

      • theflyeststar

        truskis happy tgif its partay time

        • jtru001

          wish man im sick af today…thinkin bout putting in a few hrs of sick and taking off to be honest

          • theflyeststar

            sorry to hear that fam, get a lot of rest this weekend sleep always helps

          • jtru001

            yessir…my kid cought some ish at school and brought it home to share smh

          • theflyeststar

            sheesh, you should make soup for the fam put some pepper in it always does the trick

          • jtru001

            lmaoo i just drink a bottle of nyquil and sleep that ish out

          • theflyeststar

            lol

  • Ericknicks

    I got kicked out cuss I took classes wit out paying lol

    • jtru001

      cheap mfer lmao

  • Ericknicks

    Knicks better sign Murray cuss we gon get burned by fast guards

  • Ericknicks

    Felton couldn’t stick John wall even if he lost 50 pounds

  • Ericknicks

    Jt I learned a lot before I got kicked out lol

    • jtru001

      lmao where at?…i wont fron i left cuse after 1 semester cuz i couldnt afford it….so i joined the army and finished school free lol

      • Ericknicks

        Lol in the city

      • largehrdsports

        @jtru001:disqus Public or Private school? Did you have a choice?

        • jtru001

          what you mean I was a syracuse then when i was in the army graduated from american military university…an online school

          • largehrdsports

            I was wondering, without being too intrusive, how much vets got for college.

          • jtru001

            i cant remember they will pay for a full bachelors up to 75k i think or till u use it all up…it might be 50k cant remember

  • Boberto

    Jfalse, u know Melo in cuse?

    • jtru001

      nah was there at the same time…them dudes dont take real classes man..i seen him a few times playing ball in the parks tho..he funny af actually talks mad ish had me dyin

      • largehrdsports

        You went to the Cuse for free as a vet?

        • jtru001

          nah i started ther left after one semester cuz i couldnt afford it lol…then i went to the army and did online school

          • largehrdsports

            Yeah I read your post below.

  • Boberto

    Erick knicks, which school u went to. CUNY?

    • Ericknicks

      Berkley

      • largehrdsports

        In Cali?

        • Ericknicks

          In newyork

    • jtru001

      devry

  • Ericknicks

    I coundnt do college upstate ny too many woods lol

  • jtru001

    erick is a devry drop out that was his second choice tho ITT tech didnt accept him lol

    • Ericknicks

      Lmao

    • theflyeststar

      lol what about everest college

    • largehrdsports

      You gotta be kinda smart to handle the course load at devry, though

      • jtru001

        for real?? aint that the school on tv that takes anyone?

        • largehrdsports

          Not Devry, maybe Phoenix. It ain’t as selective as a 4 year U but the courses aren’t cake. My cousin graduated from Devry. His course load was math heavy

          • jtru001

            damn i thought it was one of them ready made degree type schools….my course load was like that too i had 8 week smesters…ish was mad papers in that short time

  • Ericknicks

    Went to sell drugs all day college lol

    • jtru001

      lmaoo just to end up in rikers to get the phd in it right?

      • Ericknicks

        Lmao no

        • jtru001

          you would be holding omars pocket in rikers lmao

  • Ericknicks

    Jt you miss that army food lmao

    • jtru001

      hell nah…ish is nasty af lmao..but they do give you a bunch of it…dudes in prison eat better and thats no lie

      • largehrdsports

        MRE’s are delicious, right?

        • jtru001

          MRE’s are hot trash man…..they stop you up bad if get my drift

          • largehrdsports

            Damn, I was gonna stock up on those too just in case society collapsed. I guess I’ll stick with Spam and vienna sausages.

          • jtru001

            they good for a while tho it gets really old tho

  • Ericknicks

    That’s y dudes in the army be mad diesel cuss they be eating that food that sit in your chest

    • jtru001

      MRE has like 3k in calories lol….at first they aiigh but get old quick af…erik u should join b..

  • Ericknicks

    I tried to join but they said I’m too crazy lol

    • jtru001

      lmao i can see that…you gotta hide your crazy till after you in fool

      • Ericknicks

        Lol imma try to rejoin

  • jtru001

    yo melo still chills at cuse…my homeboy just seen him at one of his courts up there a few weeks ago playing pick up games

    • Ericknicks

      He be boxing there

      • jtru001

        that too he also goes there to chill w/ boeheim they still mad close..he goes to him for advice and shit

  • Ericknicks

    The army told me that i gotta relax lol I was 19 tho now I’m 24 imma retry

    • jtru001

      cant hurt lol…

    • largehrdsports

      Didn’t the Amry raise the cut off age to like 40 or something?

      • Ericknicks

        I think lol

  • GottaKeepItReal

    I still cant get my head around these rankings, Paul George ahead of Melo, Griffin ahead of Duncan, gtfoh

    • jtru001

      where this come from

      • GottaKeepItReal

        espn rankings

  • Ericknicks

    Boy George ain’t better than melo lmao

    • largehrdsports

      Word, Melo is way more clutch than George

      • GottaKeepItReal

        maybe in 2-3 years, but in the present, hell no

      • jtru001

        Melo > than george in every part of the game

        • GottaKeepItReal

          except D, but Melos so uniquely polished on offense, that he still gets the nod

          • jtru001

            nah melo is very underated on D his 1on1 is good but, his rotation/help d is suspect…

  • Ericknicks

    Griffin lmao suck

  • Gate-7-

    Damn these lab meetings be lasting FOREVER! Im back though….. any herbs join the room?

  • Ericknicks

    What black parents name they kids Paul George she must be drunk lmao

    • Knickels n Dimes

      maybe hes half white

    • largehrdsports

      If your last name is George you’re gonna end up with two first name more than likely

      • Ericknicks

        Lol

        • Gate-7-

          I mean they could have filed to have an “s” added to the last name….. Paul Georges sounds better…..marginally

          • jtru001

            then yo sound like you tryna knock off of the UFC fighter Georges St. Pierre lmao

  • Ericknicks

    Doug need to cut that $hit off his head lol

    • jtru001

      who?

  • jtru001

    george n melo w/ a decent PG would be nasty tho…

  • Ericknicks

    Doug is diogu jt I call him Doug

    • jtru001

      lmao…just call him the african like the rest of us

      • Ericknicks

        Doug the African

  • Ericknicks

    Paul George and melo is way better than granger Paul George

    • jtru001

      thats what i said lol

    • largehrdsports

      Where is Granger gonna end up?

      • jtru001

        prolly cleveland lol

  • Gate-7-

    I think a decent PG in general is all we need. We have good pieces we just need a guy thats slightly better than Felton…… that would make a world of difference. As much as I disllike the team…. I think Chalmers is a better PG than Felton (it could be playing with Lebron syndrome….but who knows)

    • jtru001

      he can hit clutch shots but i think LBJ covers for him he would get exposed like lin did lol

    • GottaKeepItReal

      completely disagree w the Chalmers reference, hes a combo guard. Felton, as w Melo, havent gotten the full benefit of playing w a healthy team w its stars rolling. Giving Felton less credit when our max contract 4 doesnt play and our C has no offense really hurts Felton bein a solid setup/pnr guy. Feltons a solid pg that plays hard, and is definetly not what we need. We need a big that score consistently/be a threat and reb ….. IE Greg Monroe

      • jtru001

        or javale…DMC would work as well

        • GottaKeepItReal

          DMC has suspect D and still got emotion problems. Javale dont have the iq to last in the playoffs / is still way too unpolished

          • jtru001

            i think he would get there tho w/ the right coach…i think woodrow is capable of helping him….he is a freak tho

          • GottaKeepItReal

            ye les see how he does this year, he gotta good coach in Sac w Malone and Shaq backing him

          • jtru001

            yup….

  • Ericknicks

    Going to the city tonight

  • largehrdsports

    The Knicks have a decent team somewhere within their roster but Woody won’t figure that sh/t out though

    • jtru001

      i know man he is the weakest part of our squad…i think Phil Jackson could get us a chip w/ this roster

      • Knickels n Dimes

        everyone thinks that…

        • jtru001

          go back to sleep grown men are talkin

  • Ericknicks

    Granger gon wind up on the Indiana beavers

    • largehrdsports

      +1

  • jtru001

    would yall do Shump for Waiters??? just curious im a little biased bein a cuse guy

    • Ericknicks

      yes lol

    • GottaKeepItReal

      no, Waiters is awful on defense, and takes dumb shots similar to JR

      • jtru001

        yea but he just removed from his rookie year

        • GottaKeepItReal

          true, but I watched him in USA training camp this summer, and he literally looked like the worst/least inefficient 2 on halfcourt off…hes athletic tho and young

          • jtru001

            true…like i said i might be biased lol just tryna get other opinions

          • GottaKeepItReal

            werd, were good w Shump and THjr atm, let them develop

          • jtru001

            i agree..it was more of a curiosity thing

  • Ericknicks

    Waiters is better scorer than Shump

    • GottaKeepItReal

      so is JR

  • Ericknicks

    Jt how bout Shump for Reggie Jackson

    • jtru001

      nah im good ..shump for granger??? i think granger can play the 2 right?

      • GottaKeepItReal

        na pass, Granger got too many injury issues

        • largehrdsports

          Exactly

        • jtru001

          im just throwin ish out lol

          • GottaKeepItReal

            lol na I feel you, I dont hate it, keepn the board live/my day go faster

      • Ericknicks

        Yeah but how those contracts meet

        • jtru001

          true

    • Knickels n Dimes

      thats an awful trade

  • largehrdsports

    Granger will probably end up on some sub 500 team.

    • jtru001

      he would fit in at cleveland i think not sure who they 3 is at the moment

  • jtru001

    yo knickels was you on here yesterday when i made an all white roster plus melo to fxck w/ boberto…ish was kinda funny

  • Ericknicks

    You not gonna really get a lot for Shump not less You package him

    • jtru001

      true i love shump but the more i look at his game unless he greatly improves he is a good role player 6/7th man…not really a starter

  • Ericknicks

    Shump for lue Williams from the hawks

  • Gate-7-

    I completely agree witht he comment somoene made about this roster. There is sooooooooo much potential to gather A LOT of hard fought W’s with these guys as they are. Woodson just doesnt seem to know how to utilize them beyond the starting 5 and pnr/iso for best player.

    • jtru001

      yep..its the truth…

  • jtru001

    how many teams can shump walk on in the NBA and be the day 1 starter??? i cant think of many to be honest

    • Gate-7-

      Pelicans?

      Bobcats?

      • theflyeststar

        pelicans are loaded this year they just got tyreke evans plus they still have eric gordon

      • GottaKeepItReal

        Minny, Philly

        • jtru001

          true but they on the subway to nowhere…they prolly dont make the playoffs

          • GottaKeepItReal

            I like Minny they got an entertaing young squad, if healthy they can push for a playoff spot in a weaker west

      • jtru001

        they got eke

        • GottaKeepItReal

          and gordon whose more polished off than shump

          • jtru001

            thought he went to the suns?

          • GottaKeepItReal

            lol na he still there, tyreke atm is meant to be the 6th man

          • jtru001

            word??? it was the other gordon that went to the suns then right?

          • GottaKeepItReal

            hmm dunno which gordon that is

    • largehrdsports

      The Nets cause Joe Johnson is sh/t

  • Ericknicks

    Shump need to be on a team where he can grow not the Knicks

    • jtru001

      hate to say it but Spurs would be a good team for shump

      • Gate-7-

        To be specific Popovich would be a great coach for shump

        • jtru001

          true…

  • largehrdsports

    Use Shump, Ray and Tyson to get a PG and PF or C, like Rondo and a PF or C

    • GottaKeepItReal

      Keep Ray, use Shump/JR and Tyson to get Greg Monroe if anything

      • largehrdsports

        I think JR isn’t tradeable until Dec or Jan By that time Shump and Tyson value will probably drop

        • GottaKeepItReal

          I mean, we shouldnt look for a trade until then..see how these guys do first

          • GottaKeepItReal

            its not like you wanna trade for Rondo while hes out w a torn acl..

      • jtru001

        leaves us really weak at the 2 tho so you would have to find another 2…Ripp maybe

        • GottaKeepItReal

          as long we got 3/4 Beno,THJr,Imam,JR, I think well be ite

          • jtru001

            maybe then you could still add Ripp or someone for insurance i guess

        • Gate-7-

          We give up Ty for a PG who we got to play Center? yall trust Martin THAT much

          • jtru001

            not really …but then between bargs, kmart and whatever other bums we got it could work for a year

          • Gate-7-

            Bargs against .500 teams will be perfect at the 5

            Bargs against Noah (who has the dribble and shot) , Hibbert, Blatch….. would be a liability

          • GottaKeepItReal

            aka playoffs where it matters…

          • Gate-7-

            exactly, so any trade that involves Chandler has to bring in a CENTER as replacement.

          • GottaKeepItReal

            agreed

          • GottaKeepItReal

            dunt think JT or myself said trade ty for a pg

          • Gate-7-

            Seemed like yall were agreeing so I assumed thats what you were thinking

          • GottaKeepItReal

            na my eyes are on Greg Monroe atm, thas the big I really want / 4. Imagine having him at 4, Bargs/TC at 5 and no Amare…thats a title contender

          • Gate-7-

            Thats unlikely to happen though

          • jtru001

            nice to dream tho gate…

          • GottaKeepItReal

            of course it is unlikely , thas why I said “imagine” lol…but w Det sayin Greg Monroe aint gettn the extension opens the doors for talks

          • jtru001

            werd

  • theflyeststar

    has iman been disappointing in preseason? i missed almost every preseason game

    • largehrdsports

      Injury prone more than anything

      • theflyeststar

        i heard about the elbow, did he have another injury besides that

  • Ericknicks

    I would trade Shump for Leonard on the spurs in a second

  • Ericknicks

    Damn everybody Disapered lol

  • Gate-7-

    Is it just me or does Plumlee look like he will ballout by the end of the season (maybe next)

    Give them Tysoft… take plumlee…. we have eyes on the future

    • jtru001

      he seems so weak to me….

    • GottaKeepItReal

      I like him alot, hes solid on both ends for the most part, plays hard and has a high iq for the game. Hed be perfect for us as a backup C

    • Knickels n Dimes

      agree, a lot of people on here won’t admit it tho…

  • Boberto

    hi

  • jtru001

    im out fellas gonna go down some nyquil and zonk out…..feelin like ish.

    • GottaKeepItReal

      damn, pce son feel better

    • theflyeststar

      peace fam, feel better

    • Gate-7-

      Later!

    • Knickels n Dimes

      yea, be a good little boi and take ur nap time

  • Boberto

    i love when sum1 plays with Rondo in 2k. i just leave that bum open all game long

    • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

      lmao

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      i have a good record with the celtics

  • Gate-7-

    Herbert….. any report on bargnani today?

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    yeo

    • Knickels n Dimes

      ……………….

  • GottaKeepItReal

    Blake Griffin ranked 14th, lmao they think hes better than Melo. Maybe in 3 years but 0 way a noshow in playoffs warrants that

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      wait melo was ranked?

      • GottaKeepItReal

        15th

        • Knicks_11ThePoet

          wat a joke. i was putting him to be

          at 5 or 6

          • GottaKeepItReal

            atleast top 10

  • largehrdsports

    Top 5 players last season:
    James
    Durant
    Anthony
    Parker
    Paul

    • GottaKeepItReal

      I agree w that, id take Cp3 > TP, only bc who TPs surrounded by and the silent/unnoticed impact of TD/Popps system

  • Ericknicks

    To anybody here

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      yea

  • Ericknicks

    You you wouldn’t take Leonard from spurs for shump

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      i would

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

    Yall gotta watch those Knickstape Rewind videos on youtube lmao. They be having me in tears.

  • Ciroc_NesBoogie718
  • largehrdsports

    Can you name this movie: A dude goes to an alien planet, sees an alien, says to himself “I wanna f/ck that alien!”

    • Knicks_11ThePoet

      no idea

      • largehrdsports

        Avatar

      • Knickels n Dimes

        it was pretty obvious…

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    is that ericknicks?

    • Knickels n Dimes

      no

      • Knicks_11ThePoet

        yeo

    • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

      In the video? lol

      • Knicks_11ThePoet

        yea

        • Ciroc_NesBoogie718

          He says its not him, I think it is lmao

          • Knicks_11ThePoet

            lma0

  • Knicks_11ThePoet

    Avatar is over-rated.

  • BxNY4LIFE

    what’s up ma dogs……it’s me your boi Bx…new day new day…lmao

  • BxNY4LIFE

    Not feeling good a bout a preseason win last night…giving up 30 pts in the first quarter and two BS injuries…the same BS move that pulled Melos shoulder out of socket last season…
    IDK why at times the team has Melo as a PG…IDK about you guys …but I don’t like it…..
    I see a ray of light and some hope for a couple of the new guys tho…
    overall the team is looking pretty good….now let’s wait to hear from our competent medical staff…lmaO_o

  • Ericknicks

    Everybody left

  • Laura Charles

    Any idea why CDR isn’t playing?

    • BxNY4LIFE

      his hairstyle…lmaO_o

    • BxNY4LIFE

      his hairstyle…lmaO_o!!!

    • Knickels n Dimes

      who u?

      • BxNY4LIFE

        it’s nylsd alter ego….lmaO_o!!!!

  • BxNY4LIFE

    maybe it’s kindra, tara, dayroula or drocknj…lmaO_o!!!

    • knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

      what? lol

  • BxNY4LIFE

    No Sex for the Jets says Rex…lmaO_o!!!

  • Long.Live.A$AP

    Give Melo a better team than this mills

  • knickpunkk_from_Brooklyn

    tapetapetape

  • BxNY4LIFE

    Thanks for showing me much love fam…heartfelt appreciation .. keep it going…lO_ol…..